— By Josh Constine |
OKCupid, the free online dating service you say you've never heard of but that I saw your profile on, released some cool data the other day. That's right, cool data. It's learning time.
Basically they looked at which girls on the site got the most messages from guys. Turns out being a prim & proper, traditionally beautiful girl won't get you hit on as much as being unkempt and tattooed.
See, hipster fashion is polarizing, even amongst hipster guys. Some dudes like bangs and vintage dresses, some like neon v-necks and hightops, and some like black leather and chunks of metal in a lady's face.
Girls with this effect on men — the ones some guys thought were really hot and others thought were too strange, the ones who got lots of 5's and 1's on a 5 star attractiveness rating system, received many more messages than mainstream girls who were consistently rated a cute 4 out of 5 stars by most men.
AKA hipster chicks that guys have a wide range of opinions on get more attention than sorority girls who everyone thinks are attractive.
The reason is that guys see kooky hipster girl and think, “I'm probably the only person who digs her. There's less competition so I have a better shot. I'll go talk to/message her.” Meanwhile, guys see a barbie doll and think, “She probably gets hit on non-stop. There's no way she'd like me more than the other guys. I'm better off not even trying.”
Yeah, there's a bunch of confounding variables including the fact that the beefcake pretty boys who would message sorority girls are too busy gym/tan/laundry'ing to use dating websites.
Still, this is a win for self-expression and alternative fashion. I've definitely been following this behavior pattern my whole life. Women should take this as free license to do whatever they damn well please with their appearance.
Will these findings usher in a migration of Marina girls to the Mission? Guys, have you always subconsciously gravitated towards “different” girls? Ladies, can you confirm this theory or call shenanigans on it? 'Cause I'm not seeing too many shenanigans.
[Note: This post is not meant to objectify women. I'm a respectful appreciator, so please don't grab your pitchforks and torches.]
Comments (10)
Your/okcupid’s conclusion:
“The reason is that guys see kooky hipster girl and think, ‘I’m probably the only person who digs her. There’s less competition so I have a better shot. I’ll go talk to/message her.’ Meanwhile, guys see a barbie doll and think, ‘She probably gets hit on non-stop. There’s no way she’d like me more than the other guys. I’m better off not even trying.’”
has some merit. I would argue, however, that the main reason hipster chicks get more attention is because they, compared with sorority girls, and on average, are more likely put out sooner in the “courtship” process. Let me explain and clear away some of the key assumptions in my conclusion.
Assumptions:
1. The main priority of the vast majority of the straight men on okcupid (“STOK”) is getting laid (guilty).
2. STOK are willing to send messages to women they would never date, let alone marry, but are willing to fuck in the hopes of getting laid.
3. My person experiences (below) are fair and accurate generalizations writ large.
Here my personal experience:
I’ve dated both types (hipster and sorority) in the okcupid context and outside. Outside of my days in college, the rule is that hipster girls put out sooner than the sorority girls. Sure there are exceptions, but ALMOST ALWAYS. Moreover, hipster girls are on average kinkier. Again there are exceptions to every rule.
Now, if my personal experiences and assumptions Nos. 1 and 2 are a fair and accurate (I’m sure people will disagree) I believe the incentive structure above accounts for the okcupid data.
I have never spotted more bull shit per word in any response, ever.
Exhibit A: http://sfist.com/2011/01/13/afternoon_palate_cleanser_hipster_s.php
“hipster girls put out sooner” … . . “hipster girls are on average kinkier.”
That’s all one needs to know. All of this math-shmath is just beating around the bush.
(no pun intended)
hipster girls give you scabies…and generally bad head as well
maybe we “put out sooner” because we are independently-minded women of the 21st century, no longer bound to the shackles of chastity as were our foremother, for fear of pregnancy or being branded a whore, and hence, being rendered unmarriageable. maybe we’re “on average kinkier” because we don’t buy into the pervasive myth that men want sex more than women, and that women are to be the “keeper of the keys”, so to speak. before this thread degenerates in “yeah, rock on slutty hipster chicks!”, let’s remember that we aint in the 50’s, and last time I checked, desire was a two way street.
oh, hey josh.
I love you x
-fellow girl.
dumb slut
I, speaking as one who has tattoos and funny hair and dresses a little slutty in her OKCupid pictures and is, let’s face it, on the fat side of hot, get lots of messages on OKCupid. (I wonder if I can see my stats, how many people gave me 1’s or 5’s) Some rad, some… not so rad. But lots, anyway. And when I read this yesterday, I found myself intrigued.
I can’t wait till the promised expose on the way we hit on dudes on OKCupid.
hey pig, if i put a donut on my dick, will you eat it off?