Cops Now Warning People for Smoking and Open Containers in Dolores Park

Categorized: Dolores Park

We've reported on this a bunch lately, so we won't dive too far into this.  However, it's worth noting that SFPD isn't just going after the suppliers of booze and weed in the park anymore, but directly after the consumers.  We even heard some rumors that Cold Beer, Cold Water gave up on selling beer and is only selling water.

Can we, like, just tear down that dumb playground and go back to normal?

UPDATE: Here's a pic of the undercovers busting people in the park, sent to us by an anonymous reader.  Be aware:

[Photo by Jenna Broughton]

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chalkman's picture

how about we all agree to pick up our trash, and then the cops will go away? Drove by this morning, trash everywhere, center of the park, edges of the park. Act like children and you will be treated like children.

P.D.Bird's picture

I'm with you, even considering starting a "green crew". we can just drink and smoke and party while picking up trash. But I really think its to late. With the undercovers in the park( I got asked for herion by one on saturday) the bust,and the NIMBY's the heat is on. On a side note, the weather has been nice enough at "NewDpark"(the statue at the conservatory in GGP) and the rangers seem to be letting alot slide(except for cigg smoking)

just curious 's picture

Just curious how you knew it was an undercover asking you for heroin and not just some dumb dumb with no sense?

P.D.Bird's picture

there are really good pictures of the undercovers on this and other web sites. also,it was just real dumb. Consideroing that SFPD has "Homeless" cops deep undercover in the mission, to send a pretty clean cut dude with the same green flannel shirt on in to ask for herion,and then 3 other drugs. it was pretty weak.. then a lil later we saw him with 2 uniformed cops with a guy up against the wall by the bell.....why would the guy asking for herion,hang out and talk to the cops?...just saying....

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P.D.Bird's picture

Hmmmmmm, dont wanna say we told ya. But we saw this coming when the "New Dolores park" plan was unveiled. There is no way that non smoking non drinking in the park citizens were gonna stand for what has been happening in the park once any improvments were made with taxpayer dollars. If people would REALLY look at the master plan, with biker beach being leveled for a "off leash dog run" and a service road cutting across the whole park, limiting the park to 2 major events each year(orchistra being one) One would start to see that Dparks days as we have had them are numbered...Look at the plans folks,REALLY look at them.

P.D.Bird's picture

oh yeah,and a 'tourist type' vista platform at the fruit shelf, WTF.

chalkman's picture

so, where is everyone going to go when the north half of the park is closed off for renovations?

P.D.Bird's picture

Panhandle, Newdpark in GGP. Or we have been scoping out Jefferson sq park. It is exactly like Dolores used to be, junkies and near the hood. Plenty of open space and nice grass. then in 5 years when it is real nice and there is a thriving bussinesses that the park will create they will ticket and tell us to move on again. we will be like socio economic locust,spending money and improving things along the way.. but we need a better trash plan. I think we can all agree on that.

fucknuts mcgee's picture

Yes, spread the word of other parks for these fucking hipster litter bugs (hipster bugs) to overcrowd and urinate on, that's all we need. I remember an Ian Mackaye interview where the interviewer asked, why not join a major label (for exposure and to have his music listened to by a bigger population). Ian answered something to the affect of "it's not fucking important that everyone listen to us, or know who we are. If they want to know they'll find us."
So yeah, try and stick to that philosophy. It's not important that you spread the word to everybody about everything. And what's with co-opting GGP by calling it "new dpark?" Not only does it sound lame but, uh, yeah, people were hanging out there before Dolores Park became a fucking nightmare.

P.D.Bird's picture

long live Minor threat. that being said, not calling GGP "NewDpark" It is in referance to the one small area of the park...stop hating.

P.D.Bird's picture

The median strip on Dolores? the grass is pretty nice there...

dj's picture

Don't blame the playground. There's been a playground in Dolores park forever; here's a photo of what it looked like in 1935: http://www.baycitizen.org/history/story/history-dolores-park-slideshow/

question 's picture

Bull shit - the enforcement happened when the playground was re-introduced - this was the plan all along - boring white suburban people bring their values to the city

Not sure why I read this.'s picture

Jesus Christ. How can you claim that CHILDREN are ruining a PARK? Holy shit, get a fucking hobby.

I don't think before I type's picture

Children were not the cultural priority of the park before the playground renovation. Now, it appears, they (or, more likely, their politically noisy parents) are.

Tony T.'s picture

Kevin, have you written "the man" and asked him why he's directing his officers to crack down? Generally someone has to complain for this to happen. Many of us parents using Dolores Park like to drink & smoke too. Most people are live & let live. So I'd ask the Capt. who is complaining.

http://www.missionstation.org/captains-news.html

Brillo's picture

Trouble is, you can't ask the police to stop enforcing posted city laws. I think a better approach would be to ask the Mission station if their priority should be drinking in Dolores Park or crack and prostitution at 16th & Mission. Start complaining about the problems at the 16th St BART and make it an issue of using resources to go after worse offenders.

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable's picture

Sure you can. Just look at all the cars parked in the middle of Valencia street on Sundays, with the police looking the other way.

Blue's picture

But yes we can ask the police not to enforce posted city laws.. The Church a block away asks that they don't enforce the parking in the center of Dolores Street laws, and police brass agreed.

Blue's picture

Dolores on my mind, should have written Guerrero Street, and this blog does not have an edit function. Plus the Doctor already made this same point.

I don't think before I type's picture

It still works for Dolores between 14th-18th.

yurk's picture

The cops are patrolling the wrong part of town. It's ridiculous when Mission between 18th and 16th are still an open hard drug market. If you agree, go to the next community meeting May 29. In the meantime, let the captain know here that you consider this a quality of life issue: http://www.missionstation.org/report-a-problem.html
Also, please pick up some trash when you leave. The whole scene is looking really fucking sad.

Grizzled Mission's picture

The only explanation for 16th and Mission (and thereabouts) is a policy decision to let it happen. There's no way the cops don't know what's going on, they've just decided to let it be. Those blocks are full of SRO's, which are full of drug addicts, and I guess the powers that be don't want them leaving the neighborhood. Containment of some sort.

I don't think before I type's picture

Hamsterdam

Remember kids, public drinking is only okay if you're over 60, drive a Prius and listen to Yo La Tengo. That's why alcohol is permitted at Stern Grove but not Dolores Park.

AMEN! 's picture

Of course it helps if your rich and white

Suck it 's picture
Blue's picture

Well, there was previously a school in that building. I'd guess for at least twenty years. It was a pre-school, and had some vague affiliation with the City College of San Francisco. But this new school you link to looks expensive instead of free, so the laws will have to be enforced according to the money levels of the students

Logan the Huge's picture

By the time it actually opens you will have kids yourself and want the smoking and drinking curbed.

Suck it 's picture

No. I won't.

Wow! 's picture

$23,250 annual tuition at this school Oh My God - most of the kids come from Noe Valley , Glen Park and The Castro over 70% of the teachers are white.

Amazing 's picture

The purpose of Delores Park Works is to advocate for the park to become a playground for urber rich white families. First the playground, then the soccer field will be used as excuses to drive off young people, people of color and gays from the park.

chalkman's picture

so the soccer field will only be for straight white oldsters? I think you haven't seen much of the football being played in the mission

el Greco's picture

I smoke my cigars in Dolores Park all the time and no one even notices me even if I smoke right under the trilingual no smoking sign.

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